Atrasta hobita fosiilija!!!, pavisam nopietni Opcijas

[Inx]

Nejaushi uzduuros shitaam rakstam tiiklaa un man bija sajuuta, ka juus to veeleesieties zinaat (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif)
Zinja gan nav pirmaa svaiguma, bet nu tomeer:

'Hobbit' Brain Supports Human Dwarf Theory
Scientists working with powerful imaging computers say the spectacular "Hobbit" (search) fossil recently discovered in Indonesia had distinctive brain features that could justify its classification as a separate — and tiny — human ancestor.
The new report, published Thursday in the online journal Science Express (search), seems to support the idea of a human dwarf (search) species marooned for eons while modern man spread across the planet. Detractors of the theory, however, said the computer models were unconvincing.
The new research produced a computer-generated model that compared surface impressions on the inside of the fossil skull with brain casts of modern and ancient humans, as well as chimps and other primates. The scientists said the model shows that the 3-foot specimen, nicknamed Hobbit, had a brain unlike anything they had seen before in recent human lineage. The brain is chimplike in size, between 380 and 420 cubic centimeters.
Despite being up to two-thirds smaller than a modern human brain, the Hobbit fossil's brain shared wrinkled surface features with the brains of both modern humans and Homo erectus, tool-making human ancestors that lived more than 1 million years ago, the researchers said. Some of those features are consistent with higher cognitive traits, they report.
At the same time, they said the Hobbit brain was different from the brain of a modern human pygmy or a human with abnormal brain growth.
"This is something new," said Florida State University anthropologist Dean Falk, who led the study. "This discovery has flummoxed the field of anthropology."
In October, scientists from Indonesia and Australia caused an international sensation with their report of a trove of fossils found in a cave on the equatorial island of Flores. As many as seven tiny individuals were represented by the bones in layers that were dated from 95,000 to 12,000 years ago. The Hobbit skeleton was the most complete specimen to be described.
Falk and researchers from Washington University in St. Louis took three-dimensional CT scans of the interior of the Hobbit's skull. Known as virtual endocasts, these computer-manipulated images show the wrinkles, vessels and other surface features that made faint impressions on the skull's lining.
They compared that model with latex casts of the brains of chimps, a female Homo erectus, a contemporary woman, a pygmy and a European specimen of a person with a small-brain syndrome known as microcephaly.
Scientists say its brain shape reflects some features of modern humans, such as an expanded temporal lobe in the front and a fissure near the back of the brain known as the lunate sulcus, similarly found in the modern human brain.
The bones found in the cave were accompanied by sophisticated tools and evidence of firepits, suggesting an organized society of tiny hunters that flourished on the island for millennia at a time when modern humans dominated the planet.
Other human evolution specialists were split over the new report.
Katerina Semendeferi of the University of California-San Diego described it as a "cutting edge study." While the Hobbit brain does not fit neatly into an evolutionary pattern, she said it is too much to expect that all ancient humans would have brains that would neatly transition from ape to modern human.
"There is increasing evidence that white matter and interconnectivity may be a critical component of human cognitive abilities," she said.
But some other researchers dismissed the brain-scan study as "trivial." They are sticking to their opinion that the Hobbit probably suffered from a form of microcephaly, a condition in which the brain fails to grow at a normal rate, resulting in a small head with a large face, and even dwarfism.
What it is not, says primatologist Robert Martin, provost of the Field Museum in Chicago, is a scaled-down version of a Homo erectus or a new transitional species that held on for millennia in tropical isolation.
That's because Homo erectus had a brain size of more than 1,000 cubic centimeters, nearly as large as modern humans. Brain size cannot simply be scaled down to fit a body size, he said.

[Snorkes Jaunkund...]

jā...ja varētu arī iztulkot...īpaši labi angļu valodā neorientējos. (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/rolleyes_a.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/blush.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/ermm.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/unsure.gif)

[Mākoņkaķis Aurēl...]

Es arī ne īpaši labi māku lasīt angliski,bet HOBITA FOSĪLIJA?!?!?!?! (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/blink_a.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/rolleyes_a.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/grin.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/huh.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/whistling.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/tongue.gif) !

[spāre]

varu derēt, ka šis atradums tiks noklusēts tāpat kā visi pārējie, mūsdienu teorijas apdraudošie atradumi...
(IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/glare.gif)

[Spicule]

Njaaa.es piekriitu...tagad jau visu sleepj.. (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/smile.gif)
"Nekaadu fosiiliju nav...taaas ir tikai baumas...."aviizees un zurnaalos teiks...bet kas lai to zina...varbuut arii ir baumas... :/

[Lauwinja]

nezinu....šitāda bildīte bija National-geographics un tai bij uzraksts hobit...
(IMG:http://www.national-geographic.cz/images/obr/hobit_90.jpg)
paskataties paši(diemžēl čehiski)šeit spied

Šo rakstu rediģēja Lauwinja: 30.05.2005 15:50

[Kedriks]

Smieklīgi! Visādi murgi ir lasīti, bet tādu prese pīli vēl nebiju redzējis! (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif) *aizgūtnēm smejas vēderu turēdams, raudzīdams nenovelties no krēsla*

Un tiešām ir ````i, kas šitādām teorijām tic? (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/blink_a.gif) Pffffff!!! (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/wacko_a.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/sick.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif)

P.S. ārprāts, es nevaru pateikt "````i"? (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/blink_a.gif) (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif) Cenzūra līmenī! Big brother watching you! (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/wacko_a.gif)

Šo rakstu rediģēja Kedriks: 30.05.2005 19:07

[Fijusska]

Nu jaa, isteniba ta ir kada zirga fosilija! (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif) ko tik cilveki neizfdomaa, bet vismaz var redzet, ka fantaazija darbjas! (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/wink.gif)

nu senos laikos bija mazi cilveeki, mazaaki neka emes, un ak var abus atskirt? (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/huh.gif)

[Sapņu Teātris]

Zini,kapeec tas tika nokluseets?Tapeec,ka vinjiem vnk truuka pieraadiijumu pasha mulkjiibai,
ka iisteniibaa vinji ir izrakushi mirushu beernu (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/happy.gif)

[Antons Ego]

Zini,kapeec tas tika nokluseets?Tapeec,ka vinjiem vnk truuka pieraadiijumu pasha mulkjiibai,
ka iisteniibaa vinji ir izrakushi mirushu beernu (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/happy.gif)

Nu kāpēc?! Būtībā jau vidējais cilvēks ar katru gadu paliek arvien garāks.
Ir visādi īpatņi. Basketbolisti, resnie, liliputi...

[Inx]

Nuuu... es vispaar uz to visu skatos ar pilniigu skepsi, jo visa zinaatne turas uz punjkjiem. Cilveeks tak neko par sevi nerubii... un veel visaadi gaisa jauceeji darbojas.

Galu galaa, nekad neticeeshu nekaadai veesturei, jo viss sarakstiitais var buut bleenjas, visam izraktajam vecumu nosaka ar paaris tuukstoshu gadu nobiidi uz abaam puseem. Ljoti nepreciizi tas viss ira. Nav nemaz veerts to visu peetiit, manupraat. Vieniigais, kam var ticeet ira peedeejie divi vai triis gadsimti.... pirms tam nekas nav noteikts.

Un galu galaa... it was not meant that we should voyage far in siences (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/wink.gif)

[Fijusska]

nezinu....šitāda bildīte bija National-geographics un tai bij uzraksts hobit...
(IMG:http://www.national-geographic.cz/images/obr/hobit_90.jpg)
paskataties paši(diemžēl čehiski)šeit spied

buu, tas vnk bija kads kroplis :S (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/blink_a.gif)

[Vespertilio]

Par Hobitu fosīlijām bija rakstīts National Geographic, šī gada aprīļa numurā. Hobits, protams, ir tikai iesauka, zinātniski tos mazos cilvēciņus sauc Homo floresiensis , jo viņus atrada Floresas salā Indonēzijā. Viņi izmira pavisam nesen, pirms aptuveni 13 000 gadu (jaunākais atradums).

[Patriote.]

Ak ja vien tas teksts nebutu tik garsh??/
Neliec man maciteis anglu val vel vasarina, bet ja nopietni es ticu ka tur kaut ko atrada bet hobitu hmmmm kaut ka negribas ticeet (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/tongue.gif)

[arbeth]

hobita fosiilija??????!!!! (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/w00t.gif)
lai slaveets Dievs! (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/yahoo_a.gif)

[Anderhils]

padomājiet - ja hobbiti patiešām kādreiz ir eksistējuši, tad kā tolkīns par viņiem zinājis???vai viņš viņus ir nosapņojis? Bet varbūt tā bijusi vienkārša mirkļa ideja kas pārvērtusies stāstos? par to ir vērts padomāt...

[Patriote.]

kāpēc gan lai neticētu, ka tādi hobiti bija (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/huh.gif)

esmu dzirdējusi vēl dīvainākas teorijas par to kas dzīvojis pirms cilvēkiem (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/rolleyes_a.gif)

a varbūt tās ir kārtējās pasakas dzeltenajai presei (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/huh.gif)

[Logan]

hobita fosiilija??????!!!!  (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/w00t.gif)
lai slaveets Dievs!  (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/yahoo_a.gif)

(IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/grin.gif) Pilniigi piekriitu, bet ja godiigi, man neskiet, ka tas ir ticami, ja vien Tolkiins nav bijis parasts cilveeks (nu labi, vinja nav parasts cilveeks, jo uzrakstiija GP) un vinja graamata nav veestiijums par pagaatni, tad buutu gruuti noticeet kam taadam
Mosh Aragorna fosiiljias arii atradiis?

[dArkangelo]

Mosh drīz orki skaidīs apkārt un pārīts nazgulu ar sauronu priekšā.
Skraida jau īstenībā arī - zāli sapīpējušies fantasy cienītāji. (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/blink_a.gif)

[Sol Invictus]

Tolkīns drošvien iedvesmojās no pasakām (kurās varbūt aizķērušās kādas aizvēsturiskas atmiņas par šiem cilvēciņiem (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/grin.gif) ), bet tie kas šo nosauca par hobitu no Tolkīna - galu galā kāds ir pirmais vārds, kas nāk prātā, lai īsi raksturotu šādu radību ? (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/silent.gif) Tajās salās esot dzīvojuši arī mazi zilonīši - it kā tās salas par mazām un barības nepietiekot