Vai Ainur spēj mainīt formu?, [izdalīts no "vai Saurons ir prom?] Opcijas

[brego]

Šeit droši vien ir vērts atzīmēt, ka Saurons spēja mainīt formas, varbūt varam teikt - viņam vienkārši bija vairākas materiālās formas? No visiem citiem zināmajiem maiariem, vienīgi par Radagastu vara minēt, ka vņš spētu ko līdzīgu, bet visādi citādi tā tiešām varētu būt unikāla, starp maiariem vienīgi Sauronam piemītoša spēja.

Man gan liekas, ka visi Ainur speja mainit savu izskatu pec savas veleshanaas un Saurons nebija nekads unikums. Skaidrs, ka so mainibu ietekmeja kads ieksejs speks, kas noteica cik biezi un kada veida ir iespejams mainities, bet pilnigi skaidrs ka mainities speja ne tikai Saurons.

[brego]

"Now the Valar took to themselves shape and hue; and because they were drawn into the World by love of the Children of Iluvatar, for whom they hoped, they took shape after that manner which they had beheld in the Vision of Iluvatar, save only in majesty and splendour. Moreover their shape comes of their knowledge of the visible World, rather than of the World itself; and they need it not, save only as we use raiment, and yet we may be naked and suffer no loss of our being. Therefore the Valar may walk, if they will, unclad, and then even the Eldar cannot clearly perceive them, though they be present.(...) But the shapes wherein the Great Ones array themselves are not at all times like to the shapes of the kings and queens of Iluvatar; for at times they may clothe themselves in their own thought, made visible in forms of majesty and dread" Silmarillion, Ainulindale

"These were the Valar, and their lesser attendants. ... It was because of their love of Ea, and because of the part they had played in its making, that they wished to, and could, incarnate themselves in visible physical forms, though these were comparable to our clothes (in so far as our clothes are a personal expression) not to our bodies. Their forms were thus expressions of their persons, powers, and loves. They need not be anthropomorphic (Yavanna wife of Aule would, for instance, appear in the form of a great Tree.)" Letters 212

Valar (visi kaa viens) vareja mainit fizisko veidolu, turklat sho veidolu var vairak salidzinat nevis ar kermeni, bet apgjeerbu. Maiar peec savaam iipashiibaam bija taadi pashi kaa Valar, taatad arii vareeja pienjemt taadu izskatu, kaadu veeleejaas.

Kaapeec Istar nemainiija kermeni, kur pagadaas? Jo vinji bija iemiesoti Viduszemei piesaistiitaa kermenii un bija atkariigi no taa un cita saapes un nogurumu (etc.) tapat ka cilveki.

Šo rakstu rediģēja brego: 21.03.2006 10:13

[Edzako]

Kaapeec Istar nemainiija kermeni, kur pagadaas? Jo vinji bija iemiesoti Viduszemei piesaistiitaa kermenii un bija atkariigi no taa un cita saapes un nogurumu (etc.) tapat ka cilveki.

Tas nozīmē ka Grey Heavens viņi varētu pieņemt citu formu ?