Vecie labie Viduszemes Maiari, kādas bija viņu attiecības Opcijas

[altonis]

Un jau atkal, pārlasot "Hobitu", pieķēros vienam vienīgam vārdam, ko Gendalfs (Mitrandi.rs labāk nerakstīt, es tā skatos (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/laughing.gif) ) visa starpā teica Beornam: "Varbūt jums ir gadījies dzirdēt par manu krietno brālēnu Radagastu?" Diemžēl man nav pie rokas eng.versijas, nevaru pārbaudīt, vai tur ir tāpat. Ja nu gadienā nav, tad visa šī diskusija ir garām.

Gendalfs Radagastu nosauc par brālēnu. Vai viņš to dara tikai, lai parādītu savu saistību ar Radagastu un neieklīstu garās runās ("jā, ziniet, mēs te no Valinoras atšāvām, mūs atsūtīja, jo gaidāms, ka Saurijs vēlēsies kļūt par Viduszemes valdnieku un paverdzināt visas brīvās tautas"), vai arī tiešām viņš kā Niennas maiars bija tuvāks Oromē maiaram nekā, piemēram, Aules maiaram Sarumanam? Respektīvi, vai dažu maiaru attiecības bija labākas (nu ok, zilie burvji vispār bija nešķirami) savā starpā. Protams, nevar izslēgt iespēju, ka jau tad Gendalfs manīja Sarumana nodevīgo dabu un uzticējās Radagastam.

Your opinion plz. (IMG:http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/style_emoticons/kurb_gaiss/smile.gif)

[brego]

Noradit radniecibu butu velams ari taapeec, lai uzsveertu liidziigaas iipashiibas.

Starp citu atradu citaatus, kursi apstiprina, ka principaa visi Ainur bija braalji:

But for a long while they [Ainur] sang only each alone, or but few together, while the rest hearkened; for each comprehended only that part of the mind of Iluvatar from which he came, and in the understanding of their brethren they grew but slowly. Yet ever as they listened they came to deeper understanding, and increased in unison and harmony.
/Morgoth's Ring, The Music of the Ainur and the Coming of the Valar/

To Melkor among the Ainur had been given the greatest gifts of power and knowledge, and he had a share in all the gifts of his brethren; and he had gone often alone into the void places seeking the Imperishable Flame.
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But being alone he had begun to conceive thoughts of his own unlike those of his brethren.
/Morgoth's Ring, The Music of the Ainur and the Coming of the Valar/

And when he [Morgoth] saw his time he revealed himself and made war again on the Valar, his brethren;
/Morgoth's Ring, The Music of the Ainur and the Coming of the Valar/

But Manwë was the brother of Melkor, and he was the chief instrument of the second Theme that Ilúvatar had raised up against the discord of Melkor. And he called unto himself others of his brethren and many spirits both greater and less, and he said to them: 'Let us go to the Halls of Anar [not emended], where the Sun of the Little World is kindled, and watch that Melkor bring it not all to ruin!
/Morgoth's Ring, The Music of the Ainur and the Coming of the Valar/

Taa kaa bija vinji visi braalji. Morgoth un Manwe bija tadi pashi braalji kaa, piemeram, Ulmo un Tulkas.