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Kurbijkurne forums _ Talking About Tolkien _ Debating rules

Iesūtīja: Nimue ; laiks: 07.02.2005 15:46

For everyone willing to participate in discussion about debate rules - the discussion is http://tolkien.balt.net/viewtopic.php?t=432&start=40&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
When the rules will be written, they will be posted here.
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Iesūtīja: Nulukkizdin ; laiks: 11.02.2005 21:03

Here are the rules.. as far as we have got with them..

Latvia vs. Lithuania debating championship: The Rules

Teams

Each country has a team. In the team they have an equal number of main debaters (starters) and an unlimited number of subs. Teams select their captain, who will write the opening post for the team.

Starting the Debate

1. The judge decides on the topic of the debate and announces it in the debate thread. The teams have one week for preparation.
2. After a week, the time counting starts and the proposition team (the hosting team) is expected to post their opening statement within time limit.

The Debate

1. No IC, therefore no ‘spectators’ allowed. All out-of-context posts should be deleted without warning.
2. No editing of posts allowed.
3. After the judge has posted the topic and before posting their first posts, the team captains should post their rosters.
4. The teams post Prop, Op, Prop, Op…
5. It is up to the teams how they organize their arguments, but there are certain rules to be sticked to:

Prop 1st post, Op 1st post
Aim: Outlining Proposing/Opposing team's main arguments. Backing them up as much as space allows. The Opposing team cannot rebutt the arguments put forward in the Proposing team’s first post.
Prop 2nd, Op2nd (also 3rd) Aims: Backing up previously outlined arguments. Rebutting opposing teams arguments. Introducing new arguments. Only two rebuttals allowed in one team’s post. Opponent’s rebuttals can be rebutted.
Prop closing statement, Op closing statement
(Preferably written by the team captain) Aim: Enforce team's arguments. It may be done by summarizing your arguments, by rebutting the last rebuttals of the opponent or in some other way, but no new rebuttals can be made.

6. Colour codes may be used by the team to organize their posts. In this case, the codes should be posted at the beginning of each post. This section is not included in the word count.
7. Rebuttals should be separated from the main arguments. The team may choose whether to include headings “Main argument”, “Closing statement” etc., but headings “Rebuttal #1”, “Rebuttal #2” are required for the purpose of separation.
8. Time limit for the post to appear in the thread is 48 hours. In case a sub is called (which should be done openly in the thread), another 8 hours are added to the time remaining on the clock. The judge is expected to inform the debaters about the date and time their post is due.
9. Word limit is 2000 words for each main post and 500 words for the Closing Statement, excluding colour codes and all the formatting codes, including Headings and quotes.

Judgment

Every post (except the closing statements) is rated in the following categories, 5 point scale (5 - outstanding, 4 -very good, 3-ok, 2-somewhat lacking 1-poor 0-nonexistant)

*Creativity
*Staying on topic
*Team spirit/team unity
*Organisation (how easy it is to follow the author's thought)
*Choice of arguments and rebuttal points.

Plus, each team is rated in the following categories:

*Overall strategy (how well posts were organized to allocage enough space for arguments and rebuttals. How well the chances to rebut opponents arguments and rebuttals were used)
*Overall choice of arguments and rebuttal points
*Strength of the Closing Statement

Iesūtīja: Elfhild ; laiks: 19.02.2005 18:36

Suilad! Hope this is the right place to announce that...

The topic for the first debate has been announced http://tolkien.balt.net/viewtopic.php?t=432&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100!

The debate thread itself will be opened in this messageboard, as we agreed (the topic was announced in the lithuanian one because the judge hasn't registered here yet so it was less complicated... sorry about that). The debate will start next Saturday, February 26th.

Good luck with your preparations

Iesūtīja: Elk ; laiks: 20.02.2005 22:24

Hello! I'm Elk, if you're from the Plaza you'd know me (currently) as Turin.

To expand a bit on how I'd be judging - the rules are pretty straightforward, but to elaborate, I want to see fully reasoned out points. That is the essense of it all, to me. The first poster should introduce a number of arguments and support them as thoughroughly as s/he can, the second poster should continue in like fashion, and the 3rd should come in as a 'sweeper' and tie any loose ends, solidify eny arguments that might need more support, etc. A strong, authoritative ending should also be included.

Iesūtīja: Miss Digory ; laiks: 11.04.2005 14:51

Can we just go in there and start debating, or do we have to register somewhere else too?

Iesūtīja: Nimue ; laiks: 11.04.2005 14:54

Check the first debate topic, and - go here http://www.kurbijkurne.lv/forums/index.php?showtopic=16002 to read the introduction in Latvian.

Second debates will take place in Lithuanian forum, so you'll have to register an account there, if you participate in the debate...

Iesūtīja: Miss Digory ; laiks: 11.04.2005 14:56

Thank you. Sorry for being a pain in the backside, just that... I was confused and really want to get into the debate too. Thanks.

Iesūtīja: Nimue ; laiks: 11.04.2005 14:58

That's what I'm here for

Feel free to contact me through private messages if you have any futher questions.

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